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[livejournal.com profile] moominmolly had referred to someone else's post about the Democrats and I commented. I thought I'd paste my comment here. Feel free to argue with me.

I think Howard Dean can win. I wish it were Kucinich that could do it because I agree with him more, but I'm not a fool. I will vote for the man that will get W out of office. I will convince everyone I know to vote for the most likely person to get him out, thus skipping my traditional stance of voting for random people.

Because W doesn't belong in office, let alone in public.

He has proven detrimental to our national security, our international relations, our work to remove nepotism and collusion from the public sector, and our Federal budget. He used antidemocratic methods to achieve the office of President after the election had proven he hadn't won. He will likely hand the seat of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court to Antonin Scalia, whose family worked on the Bush campaign, when Rhenquist retires.

We gotta get rid of him. So let's have a lot of fun with this primary season, get caught up in the issues and foibles, and enjoy it. Let's get the bickering out of our systems before the DNC Convention leaves Southie so that we can all feel good about the Democrat that will, not might, get that grinning oaf of a child out of the North.

While we're at it, let's remember to attack with all the guns we have. Remember the Attorney General that can't separate church from state? He's still in effing office, folks. He's gotta go. Cheney will make a fine leader in Danbury Federal some day -- let's help him back to that task.

W has torn the fabric of America apart. He was not elected. Until a President is elected, there will be no healing. He has to go.

Say it to yourself: "I miss democracy. I believe in the Constitution. I will oppose all who seek to poke holes in it. W pokes holes in our Bill of Rights, our civil rights. He's a traitor. I've got two witnesses. He's gotta go. Let 'im run Texas if they wanna be a sovereign nation so damn bad."

I get very angry just thinking about W. He thinks Jesus gave him a blow job and made him king. Nope! Get out, foo.

I don't want to hear that a single person I know blew off the 2004 election. Get up early that morning. Vote as if you lived in a country that needed observers to keep the election clean, cuz we've shown we do. Vote vote fah qyng vote.

I'm sorry I exploded like that. I still expect to do it again.

-mad as possible, Dante

Date: 2003-12-12 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
vote for the most likely person to get him out

Funny, I did that in 2000, but they seem to have ignored my vote.

Date: 2003-12-12 05:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mangosteen
At least Nancy consulted a real-life astrologer. All W has is an imaginary friend that he substituted for the bottle.

Date: 2003-12-12 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epanastatis.livejournal.com
W has torn the fabric of America apart.

Oh, I just love how whenever liberals get worked up into a lather, y'all come spilling out with gallons of mawkish, patriotic rhetoric.

The fabric of America needs to be ripped to shreds, and you're arguing over who should do the darning.

Date: 2003-12-12 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
I just love how whenever liberals get worked up into a lather, y'all come spilling out with gallons of mawkish, patriotic rhetoric.

Since when is that restricted to liberals? Think about the stock anti-gay-marriage rhetoric, for starters. Honestly, I think that there's a problem with the UNpatriotic Democrats being overshadowed by the country-lovin' Republicans. The Economist had a good little sidebar thing about this a few weeks ago, talking about how Americans' nationalism was scary to Europeans because of its religious overtones, and how it was a bit of a shame that liberal patriotism was on the decline.

Disclaimer: I'm a registered independent. I just think that *both* sides have longstanding traditions of mawkish, patriotic rhetoric, and it's naive for anybody to fail to notice their own cheesiest moments.

Date: 2003-12-12 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epanastatis.livejournal.com
One expects knee-jerk nationalism from the right, because their politics are based upon little more than the pleasures of the jerking of knees, preferably in tightly organized straight-line formation. For liberals, however, it's a cowardly rhetorical strategy designed to lash out against those on their left and show their respectability to those on their right. At the risk of leading people to make overblown analogies, it's worth remembering that in 1933 no one in Germany disputed the absolute necessity of being good German patriots--except for the Communists. Within six years, most good German patriots made excellent cannon fodder, if not death-camp commandos.

Date: 2003-12-12 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pseydtonne.livejournal.com
Sometimes, epana, you're still wearing a beret and it's still 1994.

Maybe I am a schmuck because I think things should be fixed. Fine. I doubt I'm the only person in America that thinks the republic can work.

I want to finish my thought about compromise and stuff but you're just rolling your eyes anyway.

Date: 2003-12-12 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epanastatis.livejournal.com
Holy abstraction is the last refuge of a patriot. "The republic"--give me a precise definition of what that was/is, its spatio-temporal coordinates and its concrete attributes, and perhaps I'll know what to make of your occasional pronouncements on matters political. Until then all you're serving up is sentimentalism.

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